$25 to rent the movie, one watch within max 24 hours after you start watching it… Or $5 more to own it. Scammers.
No you are mistaken with “Or $5 mire to own it”. You own a license to watch for the amount of time the platforms decides to keep it up.
Then, when they remove it, they offer you a measly $5 gift card only redeemable on their platform.
On that last post where someone got a refund they gave a full refund as a gift card and an additional 5 euro gift card.
(Not saying it’s an okay think to do, just in case you’re referencing it.)
A gift card isn’t a refund
It also doesn’t change the false implication they would “own” the digital copy
It’s a refund in the sense that you can exchange it for an item of equal value. A real refund would be more appropriate, I agree.
Equal value to the store != equal value to actual people.
I totally get that, but it is what you paid for it. As long as it is greater than your original payment adjusted for inflation it’s fair enough. It sucks, I think there should be some sort of penalty for not getting proper licensing to let people use it forever (until your company shuts down).
No, it’s what you paid for one specific digital item that was valuable enough to you to be worth paying for. That doesn’t mean that anything else they have to offer would have enough value to cover the value of the item you’ve been deprived of.
Usually if you complain you can get a real refund. The other post was Amazon and they usually bend over backwards to make customers happy. Still pretty shitty that you have to jump through some hoops, though.
Who does that??
And people will go ‘you didn’t buy it!’ like it doesn’t say “Buy” right fuckin’ there.
True, but it just says “buy 4k” which for all we know could mean “buy a temporary license to watch the 4k movie”.
AAAAAUUUGHHHHH!!!
“Own” it.
Spending $30 to own a brand new movie that just came out is not something I have a problem with.
However, not being able to download a copy of the movie you purchased is where I take issue.
$30 to own the movie is valid, but for $5 less, you’re only allowed 1 watch within 24 hours of starting. Something like that shouldn’t be basically the same price as the movie. With pricing like this, they basically force you to spend the extra $5. There isn’t even a point to rent the movie and they know that.
Hmmm… The region-free blu-ray
iswill be cheaper than this. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Barbie-Blu-ray-Region-Margot-Robbie/dp/B0BGY6PRK5When you said “cheaper” I was not expecting like NEARLY HALF THE PRICE
Yeah. I’m back to buying discs for the movies I want to support. Then I can always hang on to a copy no matter where it might live on streaming apps.
I absolutely agree! Renting a movie should cost nowhere near as much as purchasing the movie.
If you don’t get a physical piece of media that can be viewed offline indefinitely, you don’t own anything, you’re just renting. Services revoking even bought and paid for content is not unheard of, digital purchasing gives every streaming company the ability to do that.
They are legally entitled to do so, sure.
Doesn’t make up for the false implication that you are “purchasing” the movie in any commonly understood meaning of the word. And if there was any alternative where you own a full res digital format, maybe the outrage could be said to be misplaced, but there isnt, and it’s not.
If you don’t get a physical piece of media
It doesn’t have to be physical
/pendantic
Would be rad if a service actually let you download a movie you purchased as an mkv file or something. Can’t see it happening though
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Man, I spent 15 bucks to watch it at the movie theatre. Why is the rent option more expensive than that? Even with the popcorn and drink I stayed below that.
My only argument I can come up with is that other people have friends, so $25 will be less than going to the cinema because they don’t have to pay that price for each person watching. It’s still ridiculously expensive though.
This is the logic publishers apply to libraries when they charge them more for books than general retail price.
They do ? I assumed they get better deals as they buy shit in bulk.
Mainly relates to eBooks now;
Edit; found a good summary.
Libraries pay more for books than a customer would at retail.
There are different payment models libraries use. And not all options may be available to all authors.
The one-copy method pays for the book up front, while the cost-per-checkout method pays a small amount each time (and can be more profitable in the long run).
With the one-copy method, libraries often pay two or three times the retail cost of a print book—and sometimes even more than triple the retail price of an ebook.
With the pay-per-use model, a book makes an amount less than the retail cost—but each time it’s “checked out,” the author gets royalties. If a lot of people read your book, you win!
Don’t most friend groups pay for their own ticket?
Who out there paying for a ticket for all their friends? And are they really friends at that point?
Family sounds more likely in this case. Two adults and three kids could be like 50 euros for tickets unless the kids are small enough to sit in your lap.
It’s less than 2 movie tickets and people usually don’t go to the theater alone.
Oh God just wait until they realize they can use cameras/IP geodata from your phone to determine how many people are in your house while you stream something so they start charging per person.
25 to lease it. You don’t ever really own it
Yeah, it’s more like “How long would you like to rent it for? 24 hours or until we decide to remove it from our servers?”
Yes, that is what “rent” means.
I thunk they were intending to bash the “buy” option.
“Owned” till we remove it from your library
You’ll own nothing, and you’ll be happy
“owned” til someone upstream squeezes us harder / we do stupid shit that loses us customers and we go out of business
“own it” until we delete it from your account because reasons, but hey, we’ll give you a coupon!
The physical Blu-Ray is $25* – then at least you own it, versus the $30 price here to “buy” but actually lease.
Absolutely ridiculous pricing across the board though.
Edit: $25 for 1080p Blu-Ray, $40 for 4k.
The worst part is that you might be better off with a pirated copy due to DRM on Blu-ray.
I mean, you can rip the Blu-Ray, but yeah, otherwise agreed.
But don’t Blu-Ray players have to be “updated” via the internet to get the latest decryption keys every now and then?
Technically yes, though in practice it depends on the disc. And also MakeMKV rips them reliably.
What. The. Fuck?
No damage on bluray.
This is not how you say „Keine Schade“ (or your language’s equivalent) in English. Did you mean “No problem”?
Physical 4K bluray retails at 39.99. The physical bluray comes with a digital code as well. Currently on sale at Amazon for 29.99.
Argh. Missed that it was 4k. $25 for 1080p. My bad. Edited above.
$25 to rent and an extra $5 for the illusion you own it!
I kind of get the feeling that CEOs and corporations see the writing on the wall in terms of the world, economy, and climate change. We’re headed for some really extreme times in history and I think these guys have the mindset to just go full balls and try to scam as much wealth out of humanity as possible before the shit hits the fan. The greed I see from companies these days is very blatant and in your face, they don’t try to hide it anymore, it’s all very “fuck you, pay me” and it’s virtually every company you can find these days, they’re all doing everything they can to fuck everyone out of one more penny.
It’s a full chain of events that one thing lead to another. People invest money into companies in order to make more money, but they don’t make more money just because the company had profit - it that was the case nobody would have sold it to them. For the investors to profit from owning part of a company, it needs to increase the amount of money it makes compared to when the investor jumped in. With the companies being negotiated at all times, it needs to increase its revenue at all times as well. So companies’ objectives are no longer to make money, but to increase the amount of money they make. There’s no stopping point, no “we’re at a real good spot here”. If some company managed to amass all the money in the world, it would be screwed because that would mean it can’t make more money. Some companies may make some nice products and become profitable and have happy users, but even if a company makes enough money to give all of its employees a very comfortable life, it can’t, because it needs to continue increasing its profits.
The greed is so apparent these days because too many companies have reached a point where there’s no more room for them to grow, but they still need to.
And it’ll only get worse.
There was a scene in the show Parks and Recreation that happens in some near future and that scene had an ad saying “Proud to be one of America’s eight companies”. That absolutely is the future we’re walking towards.
That’s $25 for a revocable license to watch it once and $5 more for a revocable license to watch it as many times as you want until the service folds or they decide to memory-hole it in order to get out of paying residuals to the cast and crew. The only way to own something is to steal it.
Piracy is not theft.
It’s weird how people were told it’s theft and they simply repeated it forever despite knowing exactly what theft is and knowing piracy is literally not the same thing.
Buying the disk is still owning it (which is another $5 less on amazon BTW) though it is not out yet.
What’s the DRM like on a disc copy? I’ll admit that I’m not caught up, it’s been a long time since I bought physical media. Is it revocable?
Gray area at best.
It’s not even grey - in the US it is illegal under the DMCA.
I’m not up to date on ripping tools, though.
You don’t even own it when you buy it
Instead of giving your money to Amazon to rent this mediocre looking movie that I know nothing about (so this is not a promotion), why not watch it elsewhere (cough cough) and use the same 25 dollars of your hard earned money to support the people who actually worked on the movie and buy a shirt here instead?
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Thanks Barbie!
No, That’s “Thanks, esteemed Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie” to you!
“Merchandising! Merchandising!” -Yogurt
Correction, $5 more for a lifetime (or until the company decides to remove it) rental.
“Your receipt is inside this long block chain, beside the astro-doc monkey art.”
You dont own it thenyou just have it available on your account.
Renting a DvD / Blueray was like 7$, going to the movies is 10-15$, why TF is this platform so expensive??
Barbie was released on July 21, 2023. It’s still showing in theaters.
It should get cheaper on the “normal” timeline for these things, which would be what 9 months? A year? From release.
It’s pre release. You can often get streaming copies prior to the street date, but it’s generally quite expensive.
It’s not the platform. The movie is that much on them all. In a few months it will drop to $6 - 7 for rental.
Renting a DVD or video game was like $3 at its peak here. There was a video store that had older movies that they would let you rent 5 movies for 5 nights for 5 dollars.
It’s for people who don’t want to wait a few more months to pay $5.99 instead.